Frank Black: Don't know, there's just...that happens with records, it happens with records I listen to, I don't know that I like them when I first hear them. But you need to hear them more then once to get to that spot where you like them. I'm aware that I make the kind of records that generally need to be listened to more than once before you can kind of get into them, but I don't know how to explain it.

Well, we didn't. We didn't decide to, is what I'm trying to say. We decided to record a demo live to 2 track, and then subsequently, that demo sounded good to us. So we decided not to fool with it anymore, we left it as it was, we called it the album. So it really wasn't foresight, it was hindsight, something that happened after the fact.

Yeah, we have actually. This year [1998] we did a session, a couple weeks ago, that was live to 2 track, and that's how we've been doing all our B-sides and everything. We've got another session in a couple weeks and we're doing that live to 2 track. So yeah, I think we're gonna stick with it.

I don't know, I don't know if there is a theme. I won't say there's no science fiction or spacey material in it, there's one song that basically falls under that category. But the rest of it is, you know, universal themes — it's human, it's personal, whatever. It's not quite as esoteric as maybe a lot of the songs that were on Cult of Ray.

Yeah, I mean, those were the songs that were finished when we cut the demo. I can't say that there was a conscious effort to create a unifying theme or anything like that. There wasn't on Cult of Ray either, I didn't decide that that would have a theme, but at least perceptively it has one, after the fact.

Yeah, exactly.